¶ Side Meetings at IETF 120
IETF participants often organize side meetings around IETF meetings to discuss topics of interest to some portion of the IETF community. The IETF supports Public Side Meetings by setting aside rooms that can be booked by participants and by providing basic A/V support and a WebEx meeting room for remote participants. That said, side meetings are not part of the official IETF meeting agenda, are not approved or even reviewed by the IESG, and have no formal standing. Side meetings should not be used to imply endorsement by the IETF.
Rooms made available for side meetings - and this wiki page - are not to be used for closed Private Meetings.
This wiki page is used to book the side meeting rooms and share details of the topics, contact persons, dates and times, and other information. This page provides details for side meetings around IETF 120 Vancouver.
¶ Guidelines for public side meetings
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All public side meetings are subject to the IETF Note Well; participants are expected to follow the usual IETF policies on personal conduct, IPR disclosure obligations, etc.
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Public side meetings posted here are open for any registered IETF participant to attend. Remote side meeting attendees must also be registered for the meeting.
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All working group business needs to occur during scheduled working group sessions in ways that comply with RFC 2026 and RFC 2418. Working group business must not happen during side meetings.
- Side meetings may be used for design teams or other informal discussions related to working groups.
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Side meetings do not record formal attendance ("blue sheets"). The organizers of side meetings may ask for participants' contact information; participants are free to withhold it.
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Organizers must seek participants' active consent for any side meeting that is desired to be recorded.
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Please provide a calendar invitation (an
.icsfile) for a side meeting by putting the link in the appropriate column below. Please don't skip this! Participants are surprisingly poor at correctly transcribing information from this wiki into their calendars, causing them to miss your side meeting.
¶ IETF 120 special considerations
- Side meeting dates and times should be listed in Vancouver local time, UTC-7. For help converting time zones, please use a tool like Time Zone Converter.
¶ Audio/visual provision for remote participation
Each room will be equipped with a Meeting Owl 360-degree camera with microphone and speaker to facilitate remote participation.
The IETF provides a Chromebook with a preconfigured WebEx room in each side meeting room. The Chromebook is also configured to work with Zoom and Microsoft Teams; however you must login with your own account details to use anything other than WebEx.
The Webex info is as follows:
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Prince of Wales/Oxford (40 seats, U-shape): https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2. Please review room-specific instructions for managing your side meeting.
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Tennyson (16 seats, conference): https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1. Please review room specific-instructions for managing your side meeting.
Other platforms including Zoom, Teams, etc. can also be used.
¶ Two-step process for scheduling
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Enter your meeting information (time, room, meeting name, related IETF area, organizer contact, description, conferening link, calendar invite) into the meeting information table below. Note this is not the room reservation. The actual room reservation is in step 2.
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Choose the day and time that best accommodates your group and complete the room reservation by entering the meeting name in the tables further down. This is the actual room reservation. If the meeting is not in the room tables, the room is not reserved!
Also, and this should be obvious, please don't edit others' side meeting information without their consent. And please leave the markdown properly formatted (i.e., check the preview before saving); if you leave the page in a messy state, you will lose your side meeting.
¶ Step 1: Meeting information
Note this is not the room reservation. The actual room reservation happens in the tables in Step 2 below!
Please keep the tables sorted by meeting, by time.
¶ MONDAY 22 July
| Time | Room | Meeting Name | Area | Contact | Meeting Description | Conferencing Link | Calendar Invite (.ics) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7:00-7:05 | Tennyson | Sample Meeting | GEN | support@ietf.org | We  the IETF! |
Link here | .ics here |
| 9:30-11:00 | Tennyson | CCAMP T-NBI Discussion | RTG | daniel@olddog.co.uk | NBI for Transport Networks https://github.com/ietf-ccamp-wg/transport-nbi | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | .ics here |
| 11:00-11:30 | Tennyson | PQC DNSSEC Research | peter@desec.io | Discuss venue for PQC DNSSEC research | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | pqc-dnssec-research.ics | |
| 15:00-15:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | BFD authentication document review | RTG | Reshad Rahman reshad@yahoo.com | Review suite of BFD authentication documents | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | bfd-auth.ics |
| 16:30-17:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | Happy Eyeballs WG Charter Proposal | WIT | tpauly@apple.com | Review proposal charter for a short-lived WG to cover a new version of Happy Eyeballs (based on IETF 119 ALLDISPATCH) | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | TBD |
| 15:00-17:30 | Tennyson | A post-IETF world DG | HotRFC | Jean F. Quearlt JFQueralt@TheIOFoundation.org | Side discussion out of the HotRFC of the same name. | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | Calendar ICS |
| 17:30-19:00 | Tennyson | Standalone service ID | RTG | Daniel Huang/Feng Yang huang.guangping@zte.com.cn / yangfeng@chinamobile.com | Standalone service ID for Routing network | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | https://github.com/xiongquan1230/IETF120-Sidemeeting-Standalone-serviceID/tree/main |
| 19:00-20:00 | Tennyson | Pluggables | CCAMP | rrokui@ciena.com | Pluggable properties | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | TBD |
¶ TUESDAY 23 July
| Time | Room | Meeting Name | Area | Contact | Meeting Description | Conferencing Link | Calendar Invite (.ics) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 09:30-11:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | Tutorial: Attested TLS and Formalization | SEC, IRTF | muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de | Interactive Tutorial: Towards Formal Verification of Attested TLS slides |
https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | ICS |
| 09:30-11:00 | Tennyson | SCIM: Large Object Pagination | SEC | aaron@parecki.com | Discuss methods for large object pagination in SCIM | Zoom | ICS |
| 11:30-13:00 | Tennyson | Telecom Cloud Services and Operations | OPS, RTG | xiechf@chinatelecom.cn, hujy5@chinatelecom.cn | Share experiences on the deployment and operations of Telecom Cloud services, discuss the requirements and gaps that might be solved by IETF | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | TBD |
| 11:30-13:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | Open Source Routing | RTG | lberger@labn.net | Open roundtable discussions on open source routing | Webex | Calendar |
| 13:00-15:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | AI4NETWORK | OPS, RTG, SEC | d.king@lancaster.ac.uk, c.l@huawei.com | Utilising AI in Network Operations: How can machine learning improve network operations? What work might there be for the IETF? Agenda | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | TBD |
| 13:30-15:00 | Tennyson | NETCONF private candidates | OPS | james.cumming@nokia.com, rowills@cisco.com | Discussing strategic approach and modelling | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | TBD |
| 15:30-17:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | High-Performance WAN | RTG | zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn, yaokehan@chinamobile.com | Discussing HP-WAN use cases and requirements | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | https://github.com/xiongquan1230/IETF120-Sidemeeting-HP-WAN |
| 15:30-17:30 | Tennyson | Digital Map | OPS/RTG | italo.busi@huawei.com olga.havel@huawei.com | Applicability of TE Topology to Digital Map Use Cases | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | TBD |
| 17:30-18:30 | Tennyson | IETF Next Future Direction | Tools | pusateri@bangj.com | Come help direct the future of the mobile app | ||
| 18:30-20:00 | Tennyson | Network Incident Terminology | OPS | adrian@olddog.co.uk | NMOP terminology team. Resolving issues | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | TBD |
| 18:30-20:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | new-ssh-work | SEC | francois.michel@uclouvain.be | Discussing new work on SSH at IETF | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | |
¶ WEDNESDAY 24 July
| Time | Room | Meeting Name | Area | Contact | Meeting Description | Conferencing Link | Calendar Invite (.ics) |
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| 8:00-9:30 | Tennyson | Deepspace IP | INT | marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca | Use of IP in deep space | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | ICS |
| 13:00-14:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | UNS/UCA for a Global Least-Trust Information Space | SEC | manu@hushmesh.com | Update on the UNS/UCA - Creating a Global Least-Trust Information Space | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | - |
| 13:00-14:30 | Tennyson | SCIM: Delta Queries | SEC | Danny.Zollner@microsoft.com | Discuss a significant update to the SCIM Delta Query draft | Zoom | ICS |
| 15:30-17:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | AIDC | RTG | Yingzhen Qu (yingzhen.ietf@gmail.com) /Jeff Tantasura (jefftant.ietf@gmail.com) | New Technologies in AIDC | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | aidc.ics |
| 15:30-17:30 | Tennyson | I2INF | OPS | Jaehoon Paul Jeong (pauljeong@skku.edu) | Interface to In-Network Functions | https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87173908036?pwd=lIjbDFlLFizXP8QpNPydOayrlLMdKQ.1 | TBD |
| 17:30-19:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | DNS-Based Load Balancing | OPS | bemasc@meta.com | Improving standards support for DNS geotargeting and load balancing | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | Link |
| 18:30- 20:00 | Tennyson | Trusted and Confidential Workloads | - | Ned Smith ned.smith@intel.com, Thomas Fossati thomas.fossati@linaro.com | Brainstorming technology ingredients for trusted and confidential workloads | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | link.ics |
¶ THURSDAY 25 July
| Time | Room | Meeting Name | Area | Contact | Meeting Description | Conferencing Link | Calendar Invite (.ics) |
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| 09:00-10:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | Attested TLS | - | Yaron Sheffer yaronf.ietf@gmail.com | - | webex | TBA |
| 10:00-11:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | ID Align | - | Rifaat Shekh-Yusef rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com | - | TBA | TBA |
| 11:30 - 13:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | Tutorial: TPM for Attestation | - | Monty Wiseman monty.wiseman@beyondidentity.com | Deep-dive into TPM technology and their use in attestation. Relevant for RATS, LAMPS, and other working groups. Link to slides: https://github.com/mwiseman32/TPM-Presentations/tree/main/ietf-120 | webex | TPM |
| 13:00 - 14:00 | Tennyson | RESTful EPP | ART | Maarten Wullink maarten.wullink@sidn.nl | Deep-dive into further development of the RESTful EPP specificaion | Zoom | repp-invite.ics |
| 14:00 - 15:00 | Tennyson | ALFA 2.0 - the Abbreviated Language for Authorization | - | David Brossard david.brossard@gmail.com | Introducing an updated authorization language for fine-grained access control. | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | https://calendar.app.google/wsirsTaXF9t1ADsS8 |
| 15:00-16:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | v6ops Side Meeting | ops | Nick Buraglio buraglio@forwardingplane.net Xipengxiao xipengxiao@huawei.com | Discussion of IPv6 Operational issues and progress | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | TBA |
| 15:00-16:30 | Tennyson | Threat Modeling for Decentralized Identities | - | Simone Onofri simone@w3.org | Brainstorming session for creating a Threat Model for Decentralized Identities/Credentials (Security, Privacy and Harm): Live Threat Model (suggested pre-reading); Agenda and Slides. | Conference (Zoom) | ICS |
| 17:00-18:30 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | Inter-DC AI Problems and Challenges | - | dirk.trossen@huawei.com zhe.lou@huawei.com ggx@gigix.net | Discussing upcoming problem and challenges in interconnecting DC for AI. | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | ICS |
| 19:30-20:00 | Tennyson | Public Interest Technology Group (PITG) | - | Gurshabad Grover gurshabad@pm.me | Public Interest Technology Group (PITG) | Zoom Link | TBA |
¶ FRIDAY 26 July
| Time | Room | Meeting Name | Area | Contact | Meeting Description | Conferencing Link | Calendar Invite (.ics) |
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| 8:15-9:15 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | EODIR@120 | GEN | eodir-chairs@ietf.org | Education & Outreach Directorate Agenda & notes | Zoom | eodir_ietf_120.ics |
| 9:00-10:30 | Tennyson | Trusted and Confidential Workloads | - | Ned Smith ned.smith@intel.com, Thomas Fossati thomas.fossati@linaro.com | Brainstorming technology ingredients for trusted and confidential workloads | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf1 | ietf120_side_meeting_-_trusted_and_confidential_workloads.ics |
| 10:00-11:00 | Prince of Wales/Oxford | ID Align | - | Rifaat Shekh-Yusef rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com | - | https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 | TBA |
¶ Step 2: Room Reservation
Please put the name of your meeting into the tables below to reserve a room for your time slot.
"NOT AVAILABLE" in the tables below really means that a room is not available during those times. Removing these labels does not magically make a room available, so don't do that.
¶ Room Info
Room: Tennyson
Occupancy: up to 16 attendees
Configuration: Boardroom
Location: Fourth Floor
Room: Prince of Wales/Oxford
Occupancy: up to 40 attendees
Configuration: U-shape
Location: Third Floor
¶ MONDAY 22 July
| Time | Tennyson (16 people) | Prince of Wales/Oxford (40 people) |
|---|---|---|
| 07:30-08:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 08:00-08:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 08:30-09:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 09:00-09:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 09:30-10:00 | CCAMP T-NBI | |
| 10:00-10:30 | CCAMP T-NBI | |
| 10:30-11:00 | CCAMP T-NBI | |
| 11:00-11:30 | PQC DNSSEC Research | |
| 11:30-12:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 12:00-12:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 12:30-13:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 13:00-13:30 | ||
| 13:30-14:00 | ||
| 14:00-14:30 | ||
| 14:30-15:00 | ||
| 15:00-15:30 | Review suite of BFD authentication documents | |
| 15:30-16:00 | A post-IETF world DG | |
| 16:00-16:30 | A post-IETF world DG | |
| 16:30-17:00 | A post-IETF world DG | Happy Eyeballs WG Charter Proposal |
| 17:00-17:30 | Happy Eyeballs WG Charter Proposal | |
| 17:30-18:00 | Standalone service ID | |
| 18:00-18:30 | Standalone service ID | |
| 18:30-19:00 | Standalone Service ID | |
| 19:00-19:30 | Pluggables | |
| 19:30-20:00 | Pluggables | |
| 20:00-20:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
¶ TUESDAY 23 July
| Time | Tennyson (16 people) | Prince of Wales/Oxford (40 people) |
|---|---|---|
| 07:30-08:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 08:00-08:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 08:30-09:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 09:00-09:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 09:30-10:00 | SCIM: Large Object Pagination | Tutorial: Attested TLS |
| 10:00-10:30 | SCIM: Large Object Pagination | Tutorial: Attested TLS |
| 10:30-11:00 | SCIM: Large Object Pagination | Tutorial: Attested TLS |
| 11:00-11:30 | Tutorial: Attested TLS | |
| 11:30-12:00 | Telecom Cloud Services and operations | Open Source Routing |
| 12:00-12:30 | Telecom Cloud Services and operations | Open Source Routing |
| 12:30-13:00 | Telecom Cloud Services and operations | Open Source Routing |
| 13:00-13:30 | AI4NETWORK | |
| 13:30-14:00 | NETCONF private candidates | AI4NETWORK |
| 14:00-14:30 | NETCONF private candidates | AI4NETWORK |
| 14:30-15:00 | NETCONF private candidates | AI4NETWORK |
| 15:00-15:30 | AI4NETWORK | |
| 15:30-16:00 | NMOP/TEAS Digital Map | HP-WAN |
| 16:00-16:30 | NMOP/TEAS Digital Map | HP-WAN |
| 16:30-17:00 | NMOP/TEAS Digital Map | HP-WAN |
| 17:00-17:30 | NMOP/TEAS Digital Map | HP-WAN |
| 17:30-18:00 | IETF Next Mobile App | |
| 18:00-18:30 | IETF Next Mobile App | |
| 18:30-19:00 | NMOP incident terminology | new-ssh-work |
| 19:00-19:30 | NMOP incident terminology | new-ssh-work |
| 19:30-20:00 | NMOP incident terminology | new-ssh-work |
| 20:00-20:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
¶ WEDNESDAY 24 July
| Time | Tennyson (16 people) | Prince of Wales/Oxford (40 people) |
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| 07:30-08:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | |
| 08:00-08:30 | Deepspace IP | rSPF |
| 08:30-09:00 | Deepspace IP | rSPF |
| 09:00-09:30 | Deepspace IP | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 09:30-10:00 | ||
| 10:00-10:30 | ||
| 10:30-11:00 | ||
| 11:00-11:30 | ||
| 11:30-12:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 12:00-12:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 12:30-13:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 13:00-13:30 | SCIM: Delta Queries | UNS/UCA for a Global Least-Trust Information Space |
| 13:30-14:00 | SCIM: Delta Queries | UNS/UCA for a Global Least-Trust Information Space |
| 14:00-14:30 | SCIM: Delta Queries | UNS/UCA for a Global Least-Trust Information Space |
| 14:30-15:00 | ||
| 15:00-15:30 | ||
| 15:30-16:00 | I2INF | AIDC |
| 16:00-16:30 | I2INF | AIDC |
| 16:30-17:00 | I2INF | AIDC |
| 17:00-17:30 | I2INF | AIDC |
| 17:30-18:00 | DNS Load Balancing | |
| 18:00-18:30 | DNS Load Balancing | |
| 18:30-19:00 | Confidential Workloads | DNS Load Balancing |
| 19:00-19:30 | Confidential Workloads | |
| 19:30-20:00 | Confidential Workloads | |
| 20:00-20:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
¶ THURSDAY 25 July
| Time | Tennyson (16 people) | Prince of Wales/Oxford (40 people) |
|---|---|---|
| 07:30-08:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | |
| 08:00-08:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | |
| 08:30-09:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | |
| 09:00-09:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | Attested TLS |
| 09:30-10:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | Attested TLS |
| 10:00-10:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | ID Alignment |
| 10:30-11:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | ID Alignment |
| 11:00-11:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | |
| 11:30-12:00 | TPM Tutorial | |
| 12:00-12:30 | TPM Tutorial | |
| 12:30-13:00 | TPM Tutorial | |
| 13:00-13:30 | regext | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 13:30-14:00 | regext | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 14:00-14:30 | ALFA 2.0 AuthZ Language | |
| 14:30-15:00 | ALFA 2.0 AuthZ Language | |
| 15:00-15:30 | Threat Modeling for Decentralized Identities | v6ops side meeting |
| 15:30-16:00 | Threat Modeling for Decentralized Identities | v6ops side meeting |
| 16:00-16:30 | Threat Modeling for Decentralized Identities | v6ops side meeting |
| 16:30-17:00 | ||
| 17:30-18:00 | Inter-DC AI Problems and Challenges | |
| 18:00-18:30 | Inter-DC AI Problems and Challenges | |
| 18:30-19:00 | Satellite Networking | |
| 19:00-19:30 | Satellite Networking | |
| 19:30-20:00 | Public Interest Technology Group (PITG) | Satellite Networking |
| 20:00-20:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
¶ FRIDAY 26 July
| Time | Tennyson (16 people) | Prince of Wales/Oxford (40 people) |
|---|---|---|
| 08:00-08:30 | eodir | |
| 08:30-09:00 | eodir | |
| 09:00-09:30 | Confidential Workloads | eodir |
| 09:30-10:00 | Confidential Workloads | |
| 10:00-10:30 | Confidential Workloads | ID Alignment |
| 10:30-11:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | ID Alignment |
| 10:30-11:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | |
| 11:00-11:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 11:30-12:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 12:00-12:30 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |
| 12:30-13:00 | NOT AVAILABLE | NOT AVAILABLE |