INTERNET RESEARCH STEERING GROUP (IRSG)
Minutes of the April 25, 2023 IRSG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
Corrections from:
PRESENT
Carsten Bormann (T2TRG Chair)
Laurent Ciavaglia (NMRG Chair)
Spencer Dawkins (At-Large Member)
Stephen Farrell (UFMRG Chair)
Ari Keränen (T2TRG Chair)
Neils ten Oever (RASPRG Chair)
Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
Amy Vezza (Secretariat)
REGRETS
Sofia Celi (HRPC Chair)
Jane Coffin (GAIA Chair)
Mallory Knodel (HRPC Chair)
Allison Mankin (At-Large Member)
Marie-Jose Montpetit (COINRG and NWCRG Chair)
Dave Oran (ICNRG Chair)
Eve Schooler (COINRG Chair)
Chris Wood (PEARG Chair)
DONE
- Carsten Bormann to review draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv for IRSG Review
- Melinda Shore to review draft-irtf-cfrg-rsa-blind-signatures for IRSG Review
- Brian Trammell to review draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448 for IRSG Review
IN PROGRESS
- Colin Perkins to draft text for an IRTF Code of Conduct.
- Allison Mankin and Marie-Jose Montpetit to review draft-irtf-t2trg-iot-edge for IRSG Review
NEW
- Brian Trammell and Spencer Dawkins to review draft-irtf-icnrg-pathsteering for IRSG Review
The document is on the IESG Telechat agenda for discussion April 27 telechat. IESG reviewer is Zahed Sarker
Please review the documents on IRSG Final Poll.
Allison Mankin and Marie-Jose Montpetit will review the document.
Brian Trammell and Spencer Dawkins have volunteered to review the document.
Colin Perkins has finished his review and is waiting on confirmation from the chairs and shepherd regarding a question about any possible IPR Disclosures from the authors.
Review is in progress.
Discussion is ongoing to address comments from reviewers.
Colin Perkins said that he was happy with how the first meetings for UFMRG and RASPRG went. Stephen Farrell said he thinks UFM could use some broader input to be successful.
Spencer Dawkins said that ICCRG and the propsed working group CONGRESS were discussing the boundries between the groups. Spencer also said CONGRESS is looking to rename to something else.
Laurent Ciavaglia asked about the side meeting on sustainability and where green networking or sustainability efforts might fit into the IETF.
Colin Perkins said that the side meeting came out of an IAB workshop held in late 2022. Most of the discussion was on understanding the metrics of sustainability. Colin also said he was open to proposals but had not yet received any. And that NMRG or other research groups may take on some of the possible work.
Laurent said NMRG has a draft on green networking.
Colin said that a lot of the disucssion was around getting something going in the IETF and having the IRTF fill in gaps where appropriate.
The discussion of the DINRG with the IAB went well, there was a small number of dissenters on the process issues, but not for the research group as a whole.
The Program Committee has been assembled for the ANRW.
Colin Perkins said the Call for Papers for the ANRW is available, and he would like the IRSG to encourage submissions to the workshop. He also indicated there is ample travel grant funds and to encourage researchers to apply.
RECHARTER progress for HRPC
This item was moved to the agenda for May 30, 2023
Other RG News
NONE
Carsten Bormann started a discussion on ways to get feedback on RG documents in a more timely manner. He stated some reviews are done when the document is adopted, but by the time it makes it through the process it may be a very different document and getting reviews at a later point in the process has been difficult.
Laurent Ciavaglia said that NMRG has looked outside the research group to ask people who are active in the area to review the documents. He said they try not to weigh the process down with too much formality.
Carsten said that is a good strategy. He also said he would like to have people follow through from document adoption to draft completion. The same people who agreed the document should be adopted my not be the same people who are there when it is shipped to the RFC Editor.
Colin Perkins brought up that there is a crypto panel which gives a pool of reviewers for CFRG. The panel also gives members a label to put on their CV.
Laurent suggested chairs look at similar communities outside of the IRTF/IETF. He said NMRG works with an IEEE group that has been around a long time, and it has been successful. Some of their RFCs become references for the other groups papers and it improves the quality of both groups work.
Colin agreed talking to people doing similar work is a good idea.
Carsten agreed. He asked for any other tips and tricks. Carsten agreed to continue the discussion on the mailing list.
Amy Vezza reminded the group that the session requests for IETF 117 were open, and meeting registration will open the week of May 1.