[DONE] Action Item: Jeffrey He to review draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-
classification for IRSG Review.
Action Item: Colin Perkins to draft text for an IRTF Code of
Conduct.
Action Item: Brian Trammell, Jane Coffin, and Allison Mankin to
review Diversity Travel grant submissions in January. Reese
Enghardt will chair the review panel.
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INTERNET RESEARCH STEERING GROUP (IRSG)
Minutes of the November 30, 2021 IRSG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
Corrections from:
Present:
Carsten Bormann, T2TRG Chair
Jane Coffin, GAIA Chair
Spencer Dawkins, At-Large Member
Lars Eggert, At-Large Member
Stephen Farrell, At-Large Member
Mat Ford, At-Large Member
Wojciech Kozlowski, QIRG Chair
Mirja Kühlewind, MAPRG Chair
Allison Mankin, At-Large Member
Dave Oran, ICNRG Chair
Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair
Stanislav Smyshlyaev, CFRG Chair
Brian Trammell, PANRG Chair
Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
Regrets:
Laurent Ciavaglia, NMRG Chair
Sara Dickinson, PEARG Chair
Aaron Falk, At-Large Member
Jérôme François, NMRG Chair
Jeffrey He, COINRG Chair
Jana Iyengar, ICCRG Chair
Ari Keränen, T2TRG Chair
Mallory Knodel, HRPC Chair
Dirk Kutscher, DINRG & ICNRG Chair
Jen Linkova, PANRG Chair
Alexey Melnikov, CFRG Chair
Marie-José Montpetit, COINRG & NWCRG Chair
Leandro Navarro, GAIA Chair
Dave Plonka, MAPRG Chair
Vincent Roca, NWCRG Chair
Shivan Sahib, PEARG Chair
Eve Schooler, COINRG Chair
Melinda Shore, At-Large Member
Nick Sullivan, CFRG Chair
Rod van Meter, QIRG Chair
Christopher Wood, PEARG Chair
Lixia Zhang, DINRG Chair* Action Item Review
DONE
Dirk Kutscher and Dave Oran to coordinate with Cindy
Morgan of the IETF Secretariat to select a date and time for the
ICNRG review with the IAB [December 2021 - IAB meeting dates
available: December 8 or December 15]. - Scheduled for January
19, 2022
Melinda Shore to review draft-irtf-nwcrg-nwc-ccn-reqs for
IRSG Review.
The IRSG to review the IRTF Notewell slides and suggest
changes if necessary [https://irtf.org/policies/note-well.html].
IN PROGRESS
Lars Eggert to re-review draft-irtf-icnrg-icn-lte for
IRSG Review.
Marie-José Montpetit to review draft-irtf-qirg-principles
for IRSG Review.
Colin Perkins to draft text to update the IRTF Note Well slides
to match the IRTF Web site.
IRTF Document Status
With RFC Editor
In IESG Conflict Review
Spencer Dawkins noted that some comments had come from the ALTO
WG chair.
Brian Trammell mentioned he had seen the comments, but was not
inclined to change the document in any significant way due to
comments from the IETF. As an IRTF document, the purpose of the
document is to describe what the research group is thinking
about.
Colin Perkins agreed with the assessment, and added typos and
nits can be fixed as necessary.
Spencer agreed no action was needed to move the document
forward.
Colin Perkins noted the poll completed and the document is
waiting on some minor revisions.
Stanislav Smyshlyaev agreed. He said the author would update the
document and it would be ready for the next step [IESG Conflict
Review].
In IRSG Reviews
In IRTF Chair Review
Research Groups Status
ICNRG review with IAB scheduled for January, 2022
Dave Oran mentioned the ICNRG will hold an interim meeting in
December 2021.
Colin Perkins said that two research groups would be adding new
chairs, GAIA will add Kurtis Heimerl and HRPC is still looking
for candidates.
Colin also spoke about the IETF 112 side meetings, one on
semantic routing that proposed a research group charter that was
narrower than expected. He noted he would likely not charter a
new group at this time, as it looked like the work would overlap
with both COINRG and also possibly PANRG. The contractual
routing, semantic routing, and internet addressing that seem
closely related. He suggested the proponents start with COINRG
to develop the ideas further.
Brian Trammell noted it seemed SCION-like.
Dave Oran mentioned that the active disregard for the SCION work
was troubling.
Colin mentioned the possibility of a multipath research group,
in transport, but that it might overlap with ICCRG and PANRG.
The discussion is ongoing.
In other IETF 112 wrap-up, Brian noted that it was easier to
block time for an IETF meeting if there was travel to someplace
else involved, and he is looking forward to traveling again.
Dave Oran asked if there was any more information on the March
2022 IETF meeting.
Colin Perkins said the location is expected to be central Europe
and the LLC has a plan to announce the venue on December 17. The
current plan is to go ahead with a hybrid meeting, provided
enough people will be able to travel.
Lars Eggert said the LLC was prepared to take a financial hit if
the hybrid meeting is planned for and announced and had to be
canceled for any reason before the meeting. He said the IESG was
monitoring the community for early attendance numbers, and the
IESG would include Colin in any decision.
Colin reiterated that the IRSG had the flexibility as chairs to
decide whether or not to meet at an in-person hybrid meeting.
And if a face-to-face hybrid meeting happens, to plan for a
larger than usual number of remote attendees and presenters.
Spencer Dawkins mentioned he thought the plenary happening
outside of the IETF week may provide an opening for groups like
IRTFOpen to meet outside of scheduled meeting time.
Colin wanted to know how successful the plenary session was.
Lars said the attendance was okay. The feedback from people who
missed the announcements of the experiment was as expected. He
also said that they won't run the experiment a second time if
the next meeting is a hybrid meeting.
Allison Mankin mentioned there was a renewed interest in holding
a technical plenary session, and a proposed topic on
surveillance capitalism.
Stephen Farrell stated that might be a better topic for a
meeting that was not hybrid.
More discussion on the possibility would be necessary.
Colin Perkins said that the organizations who wanted to provide
sponsorship funds to cover travel grants to the IETF for IRTF
participants rolled over their sponsorships to 2022, so the IRTF
has budget to provide grants. He was looking for a few
volunteers to run a committee to manage the travel grant
process.
Brian Trammell, Jane Coffin, and Allison Mankin volunteered to
serve as the committee. Colin mentioned once the venue for IETF
113 is announced, the travel scholarship will also be announced
and he expected the deadline for applications would be sometime
in January 2022.
Action Item: Brian Trammell, Jane Coffin, and Allison Mankin to
review Diversity Travel grant submissions in January. Reese
Enghardt will chair the review panel.
This topic was a continuation of the topic from the October 26,
2021 IRSG Teleconference. Colin Perkins mentioned he had sent
some text changes for the IRSG to consider for the IRTF Note
Well slides. A couple of people had replied onlist and agreed
with the proposed text. Colin will wait a few days for others to
comment before passing the text by the IETF counsel and updating
the slides in question.
Spencer Dawkins asked about the IETF Code of Conduct and
Ombudsteam.
Colin responded that would be a larger issue, as in speaking
with members of the Ombudsteam it was suggested they collaborate
on a one-page update to the current Ombudsteam documentation to
include the IRTF. For the IETF Code of Conduct, there would have
to be some additions regarding academic integrity and issues
around plagiarism that would need to be added for the IRTF. And
that it would have to align with ACM SIGCOMM's Code of Conduct.
Action Item: Colin Perkins to draft text for an IRTF Code of
Conduct.
Colin Perkins noted the ANRP reviews are in process, and he
thanked the IRSG for the nomination pool. He expects the Prize
winners to be announced in January 2022.
Jane Coffin said that it was her last day with ISOC, and she
would continue chairing the GAIA Research Group.