Action item: Colin Perkins to draft text to update the IRTF Note Well
slides to match the IRTF Web site.
INTERNET RESEARCH STEERING GROUP (IRSG)
Minutes of the October 26, 2021 IRSG Teleconference
Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
Corrections from:
Present:
Carsten Bormann, T2TRG Chair
Spencer Dawkins, At-Large Member
Lars Eggert, At-Large Member
Stephen Farrell, At-Large Member
Mat Ford, At-Large Member
Ari Keränen, T2TRG Chair
Mirja Kühlewind, MAPRG Chair
Alexey Melnikov, CFRG Chair
Dave Oran, ICNRG Chair
Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair
Vincent Roca, NWCRG Chair
Melinda Shore, At-Large Member
Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat
Regrets:
Laurent Ciavaglia, NMRG Chair
Jane Coffin, GAIA Chair
Sara Dickinson, PEARG Chair
Aaron Falk, At-Large Member
Jérôme François, NMRG Chair
Jeffrey He, COINRG Chair
Jana Iyengar, ICCRG Chair
Wojciech Kozlowski, QIRG Chair
Mallory Knodel, HRPC Chair
Dirk Kutscher, DINRG & ICNRG Chair
Jen Linkova, PANRG Chair
Allison Mankin, At-Large Member
Marie-José Montpetit, COINRG & NWCRG Chair
Leandro Navarro, GAIA Chair
Dave Plonka, MAPRG Chair
Shivan Sahib, PEARG Chair
Eve Schooler, COINRG Chair
Stanislav Smyshlyaev, CFRG Chair
Nick Sullivan, CFRG Chair
Brian Trammell, PANRG Chair
Rod van Meter, QIRG Chair
Christopher Wood, PEARG Chair
Lixia Zhang, DINRG Chair
Bash the agenda/Announcements
Meeting Minutes
Action Item Review
DONE
IN PROGRESS
IRTF Document Status
With RFC Editor
In IESG Conflict Review
In IRSG Final Poll
In IRSG Reviews
In IRTF Chair Review
Research Groups Status
Dave Oran and Dirk Kutscher will coordinate to choose a date.
The call for nominations for 2022 went out in October.
There is work being done to set up a steering committee for 2022.
Requesting suggestions for program committee co-chairs.
Colin Perkins to follow up with SSR regarding co-locating meetings
late in 2022. Alexey Melnikov will check on issues security.
Colin Perkins spoke to the IRTF Note Well slides being out of
alignment with the IETF Note Well.
Mirja Kuehlewind wanted to know what the proposed text would be. She
noted that the slides should be short, but the Web page can be more in
depth.
Lars Eggert said the IRSG wanted something more descriptive. But the
first slide in the deck should match the IETF.
Mirja asked if the second slide was needed.
Colin Perkins replied yes, for face to face meetings, reminding the
participants they would be recorded is useful. He noted the IETF anti-
harassment policy does not mention the IRTF, and did the IRSG want to
make a statement?
Spencer Dawkins asked if the IRTF uses the same ombudsteam process.
Colin replied the IRTF does, but it is not documented.
Melinda Shore noted that the ombudsteam pages do not mention the IRTF,
and she would raise the issue with the ombudsteam.
Colin also stated that the IETF code of conduct is IETF specific. But
this was a bigger issue to raise in the IRTF.
Spencer noted if IRTF meetings are not co-located with the IETF, would
the IRSG expect the same code of conduct applies.
Mirja noted that ethical considerations of conducting research is not
covered in the IETF Code of Conduct, and should be considered.
Action item: Colin Perkins to draft text to update the IRTF Note Well
slides to match the IRTF Web site.
The IRSG decided to move the IRSG teleconference to 15:00 UTC between
IETF 112 and IETF 113 (November 30, January 25, and February 22).
Colin Perkins asked if anyone had heard of hot topics coming up at
IETF 112.
Lars Eggert mentioned a group wanting to meet.
Colin mentioned he thought it was one specific company asking for a
research group, but unless they can bring a verified community he
wasn't going to approve a group. He noted some people were getting
pressure to support a document. Colin mentioned he might comment in
IRTFOpen.
Spencer Dawkins suggested putting together a primer or checklist for
successful work in the IRTF.
Colin said he would add a slide to the deck.
Colin Perkins requested the IRSG send feedback to the program on the
documents.
Colin Perkins said the IAB is forming a search committee for a new ISE
(as Adrian is stepping down) and if anyone was interested in serving
on the search committee to talk to Mirja.
Spencer Dawkins noted the IRTF has more flexibility in what it
publishes.
Mirja Kuehlewind noted that the IAB wants more diverse opinions, so
are asking people from all the streams to join the search committee.
Dave Oran mentioned he had a document that went through the ISE
because it was worth publishing, but didn't fit in an IRTF group. He
added people brought research papers to the ISE, and it would be
useful for the next ISE to have the experience to be cognizant of red
flags.
Colin Perkins said he would serve on the search committee for the
IRSG.