- Background Information for anyone considering hosting the retreat.
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RBC WaterPark Place
88 Queens Quay W #2900,
Toronto, ON M5J 0B8, Canada
Banff Room, 29th floor
See IAB Retreat Agenda
See IAB Retreat Agenda
Morning - IAB only
Afternoon - Combined IAB/IESG
1900-2130: Group dinner at AGO Bistro, 317 Dundas St. West, Toronto, ON M5T 1G4
Morning - Combined IAB/IESG. See See IAB Retreat Agenda
(15-min buffer in this slot)
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Outdated IESG Statements (Paul) (45min)
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Content management of the IETF wiki(s) (Deb, Ketan) (45min)
- Purpose: To discuss and brainstorm processes and potential policies around content manage on the IETF wikis (e.g., uses by WGs, BOFs, others)
- Materials: discussion slides
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Managing non-WG IETF mailing lists (Ketan, Deb) (15min)
- Purpose: Management of non-WG mailing lists - some discussion points, and brainstorming for actions (if any)
- Materials: discussion slides
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Side Meetings 1 (Secretariat, Jay) (30 min)
- Purpose: Retrospective on side meeting year; proposal for future assessment
- Materials: slides
- Interim-only Working Groups (Andy)
- Purpose: Working Groups that only have interim meetings are discouraged. Does the IESG need to change its guidance on this?
- Materials: slides
- IPR disclosure at WG adoption/LC (Ketan)
- Purpose: Many WG chairs poll for IPR disclosures before/during WG adoption and WGLC (along lines of RFC 6702 which is informational and referenced by RFC8179). However, this is not covered by the current BCPs i.e., there is no specific requirement to respond to the poll and RFC RFC8179 does not talk about any IPR polls. RFC 6701 (sanctions for IPR process violations) is informational and not referenced in RFC8179. What is the view of the IESG on this? If in favor of formalizing, do we (a) do as part of procon (formal) or (b) as an IESG statement with recommendation (informal) or (c) WG Chairs training/recommendation, or (d) do nothing ?
- Materials: none
- Purpose: deconflict the IETF 123 agenda
- Materials: XX
(timebox all of these together)
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DISCUSS criteria for experimental and informational document (Ketan)
- Purpose: Do we need to change the IESG balloting procedures for Informational/Experimental document? i.e. Can we say that an informational/experimental is not approved unless it has more Yes/NoObj ballots as opposed to Abstains (in addition to there being at least one Yes and no Discuss)?
- Materials: none
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Classification for ballot COMMENTs (Ketan)
- Purpose: Are all comments in COMMENT section equal for all ADs and OK to be ignored? If no, how can an AD indicate the importance of specific comments to the responsible AD (and authors as well)?
- Materials: discussion slides
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Balloting procedures for Charters (Roman)
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Some AUTH48 Matters (Med)
- Purpose: Given that 2% of all RFCs took ≤ 48hrs, I plan to follow by default the IESG statement on the matter and exercise the AD right to approve the document. There might be valid cases when more time may be needed. Discuss feedback from other IESG members.
- Materials:
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Discussion of JSON Structure and the history of JSON Schema, cross SDO collaboration (Orie + Mike)
- Purpose: XXX
- Materials: XXX
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IESG's expectations from documents on Experimental Track (Ketan)
Time to account for topic overrun. Revisit topics in parking lot.
No meetings.
Please include initials next to topics, otherwise we risk forgetting what the topic is about :^)
- Looking for consensus within the IESG on the semantics of the RFC "updates" tag (Ketan)
- Recurring "side meeting" of IETF community engaged in routing open source projects (Ketan)
- YANG models in experimental/informational drafts (Mahesh)
- Responding to slide takedown request from June 13 - IESG should decide (All?) (This is Liz just reminding everyone of an outstanding action)
- BCP 83 PR-Action Nullify Emails (Paul)
- Team-building
- Guidance to BOF proponents to improve quality of requests (as in - Can we improve the tooling for submission of BoF requests to ensure they have gone through RFC5434 and the necessary background prep?) (Ketan)
| Name |
Arrival |
Departure |
Dinner |
Hotel |
| Éric Vyncke |
Mon 16th 15:10 TP567 |
Thu 19th 23:50 TP262 |
Yes |
Westin Harbour Castle |
| Ketan Talaulikar |
Mon 16th 10:30 |
Fri 20th 09:00 |
Yes |
Westin Harbour Castle |
| Mahesh Jethanandani |
Tue 17th 18:10 |
Thu 19th 23:50 |
Yes |
Westin Harbour Castle |
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| Deb Cooley |
Sunday, 15 June, afternoon |
Sat 21 June |
Yes |
Hilton Toronto |
| Andy Newton |
Tue 17th 10:00 |
Thu 19th 19:50 |
Yes |
Westin Harbour Castle |
- Kline, Erik
- Remote: Gorry